Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: You're listening to the Known Legacy podcast.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Brought to you by Known Legacy Ministries.
[00:00:05] Speaker A: For more information, go to knownlegacy.org now here's your hosts, Bill A. Travis.
Bill, I am excited about this conversation today.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: I am, too, because I feel like every time there's a strong, hard agenda and you guys don't get to just see who we are behind the mic. The stupid behind the mic.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: This is honestly, we were having this conversation not. Not three minutes ago. And we're like, you know what? We should just record this conversation because there's nothing like three burros sitting around just talking about silly things. And that's what we're doing today. Nothing heavy.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: But I think insightful and maybe, just maybe I'm gonna. I'm gonna put it out there. Life changing. I think it's gonna be a life changing.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Dare I say dare, Dare I say.
[00:00:47] Speaker A: Hey, thank you guys for checking us out. We're Known Legacy. We're so excited that you can fill us in. My name is Travis. That's Bill over there drinking his coffee. Kyle is the producer on the corner.
[00:00:54] Speaker C: Hello.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: And we are so excited you're here. As always, you can for our friends in other countries.
[00:01:00] Speaker B: Buenos dias. Hola and Nihau. Those are all the languages I know.
French, I don't know.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: For those in Texas. Howdy. It's good to have you here for New York Giga maggies. Anyways, known Legacy.org is where you can find us. Online you can get information, a multicultural podcast, Bill's book, resources for being a dad, being a husband, and being a man that comes alive. You can always Watch us on YouTube if you're not there yet. Facebook, we're there. Instagram, we're there. If you like it, share it, give us a review if that's something you like. We have a few events coming up. Bill, why don't you share this with us?
[00:01:36] Speaker B: We do have a few events.
We have the date night coming up, which is September 13th. So if you're listening to this after September 13th, you've missed out. It's going to be a great night, but make sure you sign up today. We'd love to have you there, but.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: If it's after the 13th and you want to do a date night at your church, we'd be more than happy. Infonelegacy.org, let Bill know and he'll get back to you.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: I would love to get back back to you. We also have our men's retreat coming up September 19th through the 21st. Which is gonna be a great time. Man, we love those moments to stop and relax and rest. You know, again, we talk about Elijah and the value of stopping at certain points. And man, guys are running all the time. This your time to stop, rest, see what God has for you, connect with some other guys on the Brazos River. It's gonna be awesome. And so there's a lot that you can do there. And you can do everything from falling asleep to fishing if you'd like to.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: So as we would say, it's a great opportunity to wake up, gear up, and come alive. Come alive. Come alive. So, gentlemen, this is the conversation that kind of kicked off the whole thing. What is your current obsession? What is your current binge worthy experience?
Whatever. It could be a food obsession, it could be a musical obsession. Musical is probably the wrong word because if you start throwing out like Broadway musicals, I might have issues with you. But you know what? You do, you, you do you. It could be music. Let's just leave it there, okay? We're gonna cut off music. Could be tv, could be movie, it could be a book. If we're readers. Are we readers?
[00:03:03] Speaker B: We are readers. I'm a reader.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: All right, all right. It could be any number of those things. So just, you know, what's your. What's your current obsession? What's your current, you know, binge worthy activity?
[00:03:12] Speaker B: So after we talked about it, I realized I do have a couple things. There's a thing. I am enjoying those moments even now on the back porch or when I'm doing yard work or when I'm doing what we've been redoing our coffee table. So my wife, When I mean we. I mean, my wife started sanding it and then I continued. But she's amazing. She's done like 98% of it. And I did a little bit, you know, painting it, all that stuff. But when I'm painting it and when I'm out in the garage kind of straightening up all these kind of things, or even driving in my car now, for some reason, I have been obsessed with yacht rock.
Do you know what yacht rock is?
[00:03:50] Speaker A: I. Yes, I do. Only because back in the day when I was watching commercials and K Tel would come on, they would call it soft rock from the 80s and 90s, or 70s and 80s. 70s and 80s. Like Lionel Richie. Would that be yacht rock?
[00:04:04] Speaker C: Yeah, some of it.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: Well, he's not on the list that I've had, but I would say he probably. He deserves to be dancing on the ceiling on this list as well. But I think. I think so. So the reason I love it and so sorry. Deal with my rant for a minute is like, you just put it on. And as the kids would say, it slaps. And so, like, I just put it on and like, Toto came on, you know, Africa.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: I do know that one.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: And Chris stir for Cross.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: Who.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: I mean, and I know that Tenacious D has a bad name, though, but I did. Someone said, you know, it's fun. Fact is that Christopher Cross has actually looked like both members of Tenacious D at one point in his career. From the curly hair to the bald now, nice. And so. And I think, actually Toto and Christopher Cross are touring right now.
I believe they are. It's pretty awesome. So anyways, so there's that. And then there's, like.
[00:04:51] Speaker A: To a county fair near you.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, Bill Withers, lovely day. Like, you know, and then, like, there's so many.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: How's lovely day go, Bill?
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Lovely day, lovely day, lovely day, lovely day.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: So I think what it is about yacht rock for you is you can't just listen to it.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: Like, you gotta move.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: You gotta move to it. Like, because even you doing the song.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that one. Love, Love, it's so good. And so. And I. And sorry, I'm. I guess I've embraced it now because, you know, it's like that thing when you go to, like, you know, in the beginning, like, hey, when you come to your high school reunion, like, 10 years, and you're trying to prove something 20 years in, you're kind of still trying to. And at that point, you just don't care. Like, I'm the guy now that just doesn't care. I will embrace the yacht rock. That. And Ben Rector. Ever heard Ben Rector? I have all of that mixed, man. I'm just like. I'm in this weird chill mode. So that's kind of the obsession that I've got. What about you and your obsession?
[00:05:42] Speaker A: We all need to go get our testosterone checked after this. Hey, listen, mine's no better than that. Mine is no more high five.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: High five for low T.
Okay.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: So.
So stupid. I. I can't believe I'm going to tell you guys this. So about a year or so ago, I. I revisited some music I used to listen to in, like, high school and college, right? And I had gone through my, you know, alt phase and everything else, and I had connected with Natalie Merchant and 10, 000 maniacs.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: If you remember her.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: And so I'm, like, listening to her Unplug Show I'm like, good. You know, I listened to that, like, for a few days, and I'm like, man, it's really good. And then I was remembering other artists that kind of fit that genre, like Ida Briquelle and the, you know, new Bohemians, you know, And I don't feel.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: As bad about my yacht rock anymore.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: So I put all these together, and it's called female vocal playlist. Right?
[00:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: And I promise you, at least twice a day, I'm in my office doing work, I'm like, hey, Siri, sorry if it turned that on for you. Wherever you're at, I apologize.
Turn on female vocal playlist on shuffle, and I'll just listen to it like it is. Oh, Nora Jones is on there, you know, and it.
There's not a man thing about this entire.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: We're gonna put these lists in. We're gonna actually put these lists in the notes for this podcast so you can click on them.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: You know, I do have it on Apple Music, so you can always search for that and listen along with me on my female vocal playlist.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Listen. When 10,000 Maniacs did that, like, when she was singing that song, and it's like, what's that? That's the one she had, like, the one that was really big. And, like, they're all, like, the very, like, orchestrated.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: And I know the answer, but I don't want to interrupt you and wherever you're going with this.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: It was so. It's so good. So now. Yeah, you're right. And we are going to get our low T tested right after this message from our sponsor.
Protein. Eat more protein.
Anyway, sorry.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: Go for red meat.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: What's the name of the song? What was the name of the song?
[00:07:42] Speaker A: I believe it was gratitude.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Thank you for your generosity.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: I use that on many a youth ministry.
Thank you video after mission trips and whatnot. Anyways, Kyle, how about you? What's your latest Upset us.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: Save us from.
[00:08:00] Speaker C: I'll try to save you, but I'm.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: Hanging out with effeminate men.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:08:04] Speaker C: I may go too far the other way.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: No, we need it. We need all the other way we can.
[00:08:09] Speaker C: So my wife and I are obsessed. And with Dexter.
So the new one just came out.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:18] Speaker C: Six weeks ago.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: So I literally have only seen, like, three minutes of Dexter. So I was like, what's it all about?
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Kyle did not want to go here.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: So basically, what you can say on here. What's it all about?
[00:08:30] Speaker C: I guess he's a. He's a.
I think Travis Said it.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Good.
[00:08:34] Speaker C: He's like a Robin Hood of serial killers. So he.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: Yes. Okay.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: He only kills other serial killers.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:39] Speaker C: And he's a blood spatter analyst in Miami.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: So this is my plausible deniability on. On record that I don't know what Dexter is. Okay.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:48] Speaker C: So anyway, he's. So he's got inside information, the police department, because he works for them.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:54] Speaker C: Blood splatter. So.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:55] Speaker C: But he. He.
It goes on for. I think this is the fourth series to come out now.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
[00:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's gruesome, no doubt about. But the storytelling is fantastic. And again, it's that Robin Hood motif of, like, you know, he knows who the killer is, and he knows that there's a chance that they won't experience justice for X, Y, or Z, so he takes it upon himself.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:16] Speaker C: And unfortunately, code. Yeah, they have to meet the code.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Code of honor.
[00:09:20] Speaker C: To prove that they are really bad people.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: And don't get me wrong, he's a psychopath. He's 100%.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
[00:09:26] Speaker A: Psychopath. He's just using it for good judgment. So it's an interesting angel of death.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: It's an interesting twist on the show.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Like, yeah, he's the angel of death. And it's. It's a modern tv. So it's pretty gruesome.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: We made it spiritual.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. So that. Those are. I feel like I need to come up with another obsession to redeem my old obsession.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Well, go for it, because I've got some other ones, too. Keep going.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: Another one more obsession. The redeemed. The redeemed obsession.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: I can promise you this is not going to endear me to anyone.
English Premier League Soccer. I love watching soccer.
[00:09:59] Speaker C: Bill.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: No. So, like, it just kicked off. The new season just kicked off. Like, it's a series.
It just. It started last week, and because I have Peacock, they'll do all the replays and so, like, throughout the week at the TV in my office. Yes, I have a TV in my office. You should, too. And I will have it on all just in the background.
[00:10:23] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: And I'll watch and I'll listen. You know, when they're like, oh. And. But it is just. I love it. My team is Arsenal. I love the fact that the World cup is coming here next summer. I am so.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's awesome.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: So if anyone wants to donate to the Travis World cup game, it's only about 15 to, you know, $2,000 for the nosebleed seat, so. Info legacy.org. we're taking donations right now for Get Travis to the World Cup.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: If you have a suite, Travis would love to be there. And we can report live from I will Cup.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: I will be.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: That's going to be in Dallas, right? Next year.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: It's going to be all over. There's North America. It's North America.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: But they're hosting something here in Dallas.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: Dallas semifinals. Yeah, yeah, they'll be the semifinals and some other matches throughout the, throughout the World Cup. So it's going to be fantastic.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Well, that's good. You just. Testosterone level raised 38%. Good job.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Not much. Not in America. Okay, go.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: Okay. Anyways, so I think right now my other obsession I've been doing is because it's time consuming as I'm listening to my yacht rock is redoing. So I've got a couple of furniture pieces like my. So I, I started.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: I swear to God, we're like the antique roadshow here.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: So I like to drink tea and redo furniture while listening to yacht rock.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: I found this pig in an antique store and I don't know what to do with it, but when you open up the rear end.
Anyways, you know, my mother passed away last year and so I, I got her kitchen table, which is really cool because fun fact about the kitchen table I have now is that's the, the place that I came to know Jesus at. My father led me to the Lord at that kitchen table. So I really wanted to have that as part of our, like, you know.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: It'S a sacred object.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah. It's kind of neat like and so that I can have that. Maybe pass that down to someone. I don't know, whatever. But either way I wanted it. It was kind of cool. Just, just, just a cool, cool memory and. But we didn't like the, the color of it. It was super like it's probably been stained in. It's a 50 year old table. It's probably stained at least 178 times. And so it's like super dark. So sanding that and refinishing that and taking the time to do that, I'm not a very. You guys know me, I'm not a very patient person. And it's allowed me to go. I don't have an agenda for time with this. So I've just been like redoing it slowly now. My wife then, then started to redo our coffee table which then that took place because it's like we got to have a cocktail back in.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: But I've really enjoyed that I've enjoyed like sanding that through and you got like the whole 80, 120, 220, you.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Know, super sandpaper grit for those who may not know what that is.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. And then finding the right stain, all that kind of stuff. I've really enjoyed that kind of bringing back to life these like pieces of furniture. And so.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: And I love that idea of coming back to life because I think kind of what sparked this and why we wanted to have this conversation is because I think so there's. Have you ever tried to sit on a two legged stool? Like it's, it's. You can do it, but you can't do it for long. Right. You know, and it doesn't, it's not really relaxing, it's not really taking the load off your feet. And most of us men in life, we have a two legged stool that we engage in and it's called our work and it's called our family. And we don't have that third leg that allows us to be rest, recharge and renew whatever that third leg might be. And I think previous generations, like my dad's generation, I remember him Thursday nights he was either playing poker with his buddies once a month or he had Thursday night golf league right. During the summertime and he was out hanging out with the guys, getting recharged, renewed. He didn't ignore the family, he didn't do it at the expense of family. But he was a better dad after those moments because he was recharged and renewed to be able to, to engage in the family, to be able to engage in his vocation, his work more efficiently. Does that make sense?
[00:14:09] Speaker B: Oh, no. I love that you're saying that, man. Go for it.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: No, no, no. So I think, you know, for us as guys, we have a culture, a world now that's, that's screaming at us. You got to be successful in your business and you have to be successful in your, your family. Right?
[00:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: Both great things. Great. Too many of us have neglected that third leg and we're wondering why. We're disillusioned, we're wondering why we're burned out, we're wondering why we have joy and we see a text like, you know, I've come that you may have life and have it to the fullest. And we're like, well, if this is a full life, I'm out. Right?
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Because in the church, like we want obviously our whole heart with known legacy, as you would come alive as a father and a husband, you would Impact the world. But part of that, even in the gear up, wake up, come alive part, there is a moment for you. Like, you need to remember that you are fearfully and wonderfully made. And the thing that you love, man, and in its refinement like that God has something great for you. I mean, if you love golf, if you love this, it's like, go, go and try it and learn. I think there's something valuable going. I'm learning a skill.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: And I'm understanding that, well, I'm actually pretty good at this and finding something. Like, I mean, I try to play golf a couple times a year, and I do love it. And I kind of suck at. I don't. I don't do any kind of like, class training or anything like that. But I love it because it's like, it's something that, that I can keep getting better at throughout the years and I can do with other men. But I love it because you're right. It's not just that we are good husbands and good fathers. It's not just that we're always like, I gotta go and, like, be a provider. Yeah. Like. But there is something about.
There's this intimacy. We talked about it last one. There's an intimacy with God where you can go, God. I'm a little nervous most guys, I mean, from whether it's stepping out on the ball court or whether it's trying to hit that club or whether it's whatever the moment. There's a nervousness that you're like, am I going to be good? Am I going to be good enough? Am I going to be good enough that someone might invite me eventually? I mean, all those things run through every guy's head at some point that you can go, man, I'm leaning on God. So even our hobbies cause us to lean on God and go, I'm going to try and be better at this. And I think there's something important about that.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: And we're not saying, like, if you love to ride motorcycles, you should do it every waking moment and every weekend, you know, hey, wife, get off my back. The podcast said I should have a hobby, and I'm going to be gone Friday night through Sunday afternoon.
We're not saying that within reason, addiction or obsessions can become destructive, no doubt about it. But to make sure that we incorporate into our lives a healthy space to go and go to the garage and work on our cars and not feel guilty about it. As long as every night we're not going to the garage and working Correct. Because we're trying to escape from our family.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: Because we do need to recharge.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: Right, right. And so that's just our heart with this thing, you know, what did Jesus do over and over again? What was his hobby? What was his obsession? Communication with the father. Yeah. And he would wake up early to do it. He'd wake up. He'd stay up late at night to do it. But he never neglected his followers, and he never neglected the people that God had put within his life and his sphere of influence for that obsession. Does that mean.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: I think the hobby causes us to kind of keep at a low rumble because you're like, if you love it, you're not like, I need to do. Like, you just enjoy it.
And I feel like every time that I get to go do something like that, I begin talking to the father anyways.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: I begin that conversation because you're like. You're just kind of. It's almost like you're in. Your body becomes in, like, maintenance mode. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Where you're like, okay, I can kind of process. And you get calm, you get still.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Brain engages in the world differently than the normal, you know. Yeah. It's always good stuff.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: So I think there's something valuable, guys we're calling you to is like, have a hobby. Like, do something that you love. Because it doesn't just. It actually does help your family for you to come back a little more, recharge. Because if all you're doing is trying to provide, trying to be a good husband, trying to be a provider, trying to be a godly leader, you're like, these are great, but I know that there's times that I get away. And honestly, the other encouragement is encourage your spouse to find a hobby.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Yes, yes.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: That's the other thing. It's not just you going and going. I'm going to, like, encourage them, try to help them find something. Because there's something about both of you finding a hobby and then coming back together and doing that. There's something really valuable in that.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: There's an old. We'll end with this. There's an old folk tale, I'm going to say it that way, of a woodsman. And I'm not going to show the whole thing. But basically the important part was one guy was really strong, but he never stopped to sharpen the axe. And so he became absolutely useless. And the other guy, who was very weak, after every tree cut down, he stopped and he sharpened his axe. And it actually. He was more successful Long term, because he took the time to sharpen the axe. And that is what we're kind of talking about. Make sure your spouse has time to sharpen her. Her axe. Make sure you have time to sharpen your axe, because that'll make you both better people with each other, better people with their kids, and better people wherever God is calling you to serve.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: I kind of want to give you that Jeremiah Johnson, like, like Robert Redford, like, meme that goes. Yeah, I'm gonna find it and try and put it on here.
I think it's good, guys. This is it. Like, I know we're always talking about stuff and facts and truth and we're having interviews, but today we just wanted to have a sit down with you guys and say, man, try to find a hobby in this world that is trying to steal, kill, and destroy from you. You need to find life in yourself as a child of God and what he's called you to, and it opens up your heart to God. If this works, maybe something else.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Maybe I can do this too. We believe in you. We'd love to know, hey, if you have specific hobbies, man, we'd love to hear those comments. Because some guys are like, what? What can be a good hobby? Put them in the comments. We'd love to see that on our, you know, on our YouTube page. Let us know what your hobbies are. Connect with us, infoonelegacy.org we'd love to hear from you guys, man, we are so grateful that you guys are here to challenge yourself to become the greatest child of God that you can be. And part of that is having a hobby.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: Having a hobby, which is wake up, gear up, and come alive. So God bless you guys. See you at the retreat.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Have a lovely day. Lovely day. Lovely day.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Thanks for listening to the Known Legacy podcast. We'd love to hear from you. So email us your questions or comments to infonolegacy.IO.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: It.
