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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: You're listening to the Known Legacy podcast brought to you by Known Legacy Ministries.
More information go to knownlegacy.org now here's your hosts, Bill and Travis.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Good morning everybody.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: Take. Good morning me out to the ball game.
Take. It's opening day and I'm obviously the only one that cares about that here at Known Legacy, so.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: Oh, I'm a Mets fan.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, you know, yeah, it's our year,
[00:00:33] Speaker C: so you're in a minor league baseball.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Wow.
Welcome to Known Legacy, everyone. We're so happy you're here as you've
[00:00:41] Speaker A: offended all 11 of us.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: As a token Astros fan here in the DFW area, I know the hate, but congratulations to you guys a few years ago winning the World Series. Well done. Well done.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: You're not talking to me right now.
[00:00:51] Speaker B: No, no. Matt's. It's been, it's been a long time. It's been a long time.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: The word VCR comes to mind.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: When the metamax was still around, it was 86.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: I mean we made it pretty far. But I mean you're celebrating your 40 year anniversary.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: It's our year anyways.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: It's our year, man.
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[00:01:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Every Thursday morning, 6:45, we're going to challenge you guys to tune in to our men's adrenaline shot Bible study. It is just, just for guys and it's on the phone so no one can see you. But it's a great way to get started, be encouraged. So we are going to connect you to that. We'd love to have you be a part of what we're doing there. So make sure you sign yourself up. We'll have the link in the bio below.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Fantastic. And yeah, I think it's time for, well, it's time for the question of the day.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: Question of the day.
[00:01:59] Speaker B: And just so you know, if you want, if you have a question for us to wrestle with, non theological or theological, it doesn't matter. And you want that to be the question of the day.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Non theolog are way nicer. So I don't want you guys. Yes, like if you're, like, if you were a piece of bacon, how would you fry yourself? Like, those things are great.
Cast iron them our way.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Cast iron. 110% cast iron.
Yeah, but info.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: Ever had stove bacon? Like, like, like oven bacon?
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, sorry, here's my fear of, of oven bacon. Like the whole house is going to burn down. Like it's in the oven and it's warming up and I'm like, yeah, it's going to be great. One more minute and then I come back in and the entire thing is just exploding.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: Well, for. No, I think for me it's like, you know when like you bake cookies and you get that warm cookie feeling all over the house? It does it to bacon too.
[00:02:46] Speaker B: Welcome to two Fat Guys. We're happy you're here listening to the
[00:02:48] Speaker A: podcast today, two Fat Guys on the radio.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Anyways, if you have an idea for a question of the day, please submit it either in the comments below or you can put it info1legacy.org we'd love to have that.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Anyways, the question of the day is with America celebrating 250 years of existence.
Thank you very much.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Congratulations. We almost made it.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: We almost made it. If we make it to July 4th, what is your quintessential perfect American? Like, what would be your American movie? What's the quintessential American movie for you? That's a question.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: Do you want to go first? Kyle, I know you've. I think you've got some prep on this. I'm still processing with this.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: There's a lot.
[00:03:30] Speaker C: So I'm gonna go with Miracle.
That's my.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Okay, Miracle. Okay.
[00:03:35] Speaker C: And when Miracle two comes out, I like that one too.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: Usa.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Usa.
[00:03:43] Speaker C: If, if you've seen it recently, you remember it just has so much of what was going on in the world.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:03:48] Speaker C: You know, the Iran, geopolitical Cold war, all that stuff. So I think it's a feel good American story. That's what I'm going with.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: No, it's good. That's a really good feel.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: It's a really good one. It's a really good one. That's really good. I'm gonna go next.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Okay, go, go for it.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: I don't want you to take mine.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: I, I have a few.
But, but for the sake of going non military, because I think you have some great military moves.
[00:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah, the patriot, like, come on.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: That's amazing. You know, this guy that just wants to do his own thing, doesn't want to get involved and all of A sudden, he's pushed to the point. He's like, fine, let's commandeer an army, live in the swamp, and destroy those red coats.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: Those British.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: Those British. So.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: But, oh, by the way. So we're sorry, sorry, sorry. England. We're. We're 250 at this point. Sorry, Lou.
[00:04:33] Speaker B: Azure.
That's all I'm saying.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: We got you.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: And I drink coffee. Not tea, exactly, anyways.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Exactly. I still throw my tea in the water. Don't you worry?
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Every day, just in honor of it, I throw one tea bag in the toilet and just. What are you doing?
[00:04:48] Speaker A: I'm like, ah, take that.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: Anyways, I'm gonna go. Sandlot.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Ooh, that's a good movie. Sandlot is just a great movie.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: It's Americana at its finest. It's pure. It's, you know, fun. It's. It's teenage. It's all of that coming of age stuff. It's, you know, looking for the underdog, inviting him into this deeper community.
And.
Yeah, and then the best scene, I think probably top 10 scene of cinematic history is the 4th of July scene where they're playing night baseball under the fireworks.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: So good, man.
[00:05:24] Speaker B: So good. And Ray Charles singing.
[00:05:27] Speaker A: Oh, beautiful.
That's not Ray Charles.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: Not at all.
Good try, though. Good try.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Terrible.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: How about you, Bill? What's your quintessential American movie?
[00:05:40] Speaker A: So it's not a movie, it's a series?
[00:05:41] Speaker B: No, I know where you're going.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Band of Brothers.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Band Brothers. Why do you think that's the quintessential American movie?
[00:05:47] Speaker A: I think because it just. It just brings up the heart of, like, man, that, like, group of men caught against a true evil, whatever people might. Might believe true evil, you know, I'm saying.
And then how they had. How they fought for it and man were worked together. But then also the fact that, like, they dealt with death, they dealt with their brothers in arms, you know, falling by the wayside. And then. And I, you know, I grew up in the VFW post, so I had some of that. Not, not like, you know, those guys who were. Were a part of that, that you. I didn't know that. They were like, they, they, they, they were heroes. But then to go back, like, decades later and watch it, you're like, that's what they went through, like, those guys. And so just a lot of respect. And I don't know, there's just something to me, because I think a lot of those guys, even it wasn't Joe Toy. It was one of the other guys. I can't Remember his name right now, But I remember he was like. He's like, what do you want to do afterwards? Like, I want to go, you know, drive. Drive. Drive my taxi and just get married and have a home.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: And you're like, yeah, that sounds awesome. You know I'm saying. So I don't know.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: Just.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: Yeah, just good old stuff. But I know there's a bunch of other good movies, too. I know we were chatting before.
[00:06:53] Speaker C: Robert Ryan.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: Saving Private Ryan. Great movie, great movie.
[00:06:57] Speaker C: Stand By Me.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Stand By Me.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: The blueberry pie scene.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: All of it is fantastic. The leech scene that scarred me for life.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: I never wanted to go into a lake ever in my life with that.
[00:07:10] Speaker B: No.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: That was crazy.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: But reinvented Lollipop. The song Lollipop. Yes. Yeah. I mean, all of it. And all the kids and just. Yeah. Oh, and who can't.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Who can't forget the one that prepared us for where we are right now? Red Dawn.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: The og The OG not the remake. Stop. You can put it in below if
[00:07:30] Speaker A: you think the original one's better. And we need to hear that the original is better than the new one.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: Right.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: I watched the new one, but I was like, this is horrible. This is horrible.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: It's like reading a book and then watching a movie.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: You know, they pop up, they take on the tank.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: So good.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Golly. It's so good.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: Anyways, good classic movies.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: So if you have another one that we forgot about, please put it in the comments or share it underneath. We'd love to hear. And gives us something to watch this summer. So we're excited about it.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: We should have done one about AI Movies because we got a slew of those. Two of. How bad.
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Which one do you think is prophetic? Which imovie do you think is the most prophetic imovie out there?
[00:08:05] Speaker C: Terminator.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: Terminator.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: Terminators. Yeah. 1 through 5 or whatever they are. And then. And then the Matrix, which is the iRobot. And then I'm. You watch iRobot. And then I was downtown in Dallas walking around, and I went to. By like the Tesla building.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:21] Speaker A: And There is an iRobot. I know. And I'm like, do we not know what's going to happen if this guy turns red? I'm running. That's all I know.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: Isn't it called Skynet in Terminator? And isn't that. What? No. Skylink.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: Sky. Close enough, man.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: I'm telling you, close enough. Elon Musk. I'm like, Sarah Connor, where are you?
[00:08:38] Speaker A: We need you.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: We've had the prophecies. We should know better. We should know better.
[00:08:42] Speaker A: We are totally off the rails today, but it's okay.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Anyways. You got a question for us, Bill? Take us.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: I do. You know, as. As we talk more, man, have a lot, a lot of great conversations with men. One of the concerns we have is, is this idea of discipleship with their kids.
But. But not making it a scholastic exercise.
And then it's like, then it feels like it's so out of reach. And, man, we just want less complicated. It doesn't have to be complicated to learn to disciple your kids. Right.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: We often will view it as an academic endeavor. Like, I have to teach them this academic truth. And most of us feel unworthy or not well versed in it, so how can I teach this? And I think what we see throughout the entire book of Proverbs and as well as throughout Scripture, like, God chose fishermen for a reason.
Right. And he wasn't like all that concerned. I mean, yes, they learned, but they learned through experience. They learned from watching, they learned from doing. And I think that's our heart in this whole conversation with dads. Like, dads realize you're teaching truth through the things you do and how you react in situations. And it doesn't have to be this academic brain reality. It can just be this thing that I would say this great discipleship is discipleship that's caught as much as it is something that's taught.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: Yeah, right, Absolutely. And I think we've, we've. And I'm guilty of this too. For all those years, we've allowed the church to kind of disciple our kids with the idea that, okay, they go on there on a Sunday morning, they're learning something that we're not learning. And then, yes. And we think, okay, they're just gonna get it, but they need us to correct. Be their main disciplers. And so I think there's four things that kept jumping up. The first thing was, do we believe it?
Like, have we really believed? You know, here, let me give you some, some statistics. It's. There was a report in 2025. It said that from. From Manhood Journey. And it's based on over 6,000 responses. They found that 83% of Christian fathers do not pray regularly with their families, 43% read the Bible only occasionally.
Sorry, 42%. Over 75% do not discuss scriptures regularly with their children. And nearly 80% lack accountability relationships. So if you're out there going, I feel like I'm alone in this, you're not Alone, you're the other side. But how do we fix it?
And we realize it's not that difficult.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: Right. And. And so I would say, first and foremost, behavior follows beliefs.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: And so if it's something that you genuinely believe, are your behaviors in line with what you believe about Jesus?
Is your behavior in line with what you believe about the Bible? You know, we on this podcast believe the Bible is the word of God.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: And that everything in the Bible, though we may not fully understand it, we have to submit to it and surrender to it and say, God, your God. And in this one, I'm just going to trust you. I may not like what you're saying here. I may not get it. Yeah. But I'm gonna trust you in this, and I'm gonna submit to that. But the key is your behaviors. Reading it, knowing it, understanding it, incorporating it daily into your life through different. Whether it be devotions or whatever. Engaging in this conversation with the Creator. The university says, I invite you to pray. Pray about everything. The big stuff, the little stuff, it doesn't matter. Just pray about everything at all times without ceasing.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Pray.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: Which basically means just talk to God.
[00:11:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: It's not some special formula. It's just talk to me like a dad wants to hear from his kids.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Exactly.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: I don't care if my kid brings me the ugliest picture that he drew in, you know, in daycare.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: I'm just excited. The kids running up to me, giving me a big hug, lighting my world like, this is amazing. He gives me this picture. I'm like, that's the best thing ever. That's the way I often see the Heavenly Father with me of, like, absolutely. Travis, I'm just excited that you want to talk to me. Like, that's awesome. Like, yes, let's talk.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, it's funny. When we were. We were going through my mother's stuff, I remember we had pulled through all these papers, and the most of things that she had were all the drawings that the kids got her right. Had made her through all the years. And you're like, that's the kind of heart not. Not a heart of man. God just wants to be with us. That's it. And it comes from this desire of just wanting to have this intimacy with us. And I think if you've got a doubt, that's the first thing I can think about. So many people don't read because they're like, well, I have a doubt. And then what if that doubt comes to fruition? And then what happens to me if I start doubting the word of God? Well, I will tell you this.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: Ignorance is not bliss on this.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: Exactly. And so we need to work through those. So I would, I would encourage you to have courage to step out and go, I have a doubt about something. I have a fear. I'm going to. I'm uncertain about something. There is enough resources. Here's the thing I will tell you. If you have a specific doubt or fear, we want a journey with you. Infoownlegacy.org if you have a specific thing, it's not a shameful. I almost guarantee we had the same exact issues. Correct. And so we want to walk through it with you and pray for you. Because if you stay in that doubt, you'll never fully leap into who God's created you to. Created you to become. And so now you have. Now you're stuck with, if I kind of half believe it, how much are my kids going to believe it if they don't see me live it out? So we have to step through those doubts and fears on a very, I don't say systematic way. Here's, Here's a concern I have. God, I'm gonna bring this to you, and then I need to figure this out. So begin to walk through those doubts, but don't hide from them.
[00:13:57] Speaker B: Correct. Agreed. Agreed. And if you like, you're like, I know, I know, I know. I just don't even know where to start. Here's a great place to start. Join Bill at the adrenaline shots.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: That's a great.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: Just get, baby, step forward, make a commitment. Maybe do it once a month, twice a month. See what God does with that.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: Just start to find a place, whether it be through adrenaline shot, whether it be through Soldiers of Faith, whether it be through your local congregation or taking your local pastor out to lunch with no agenda, just to talk and start to discover some of the stuff. Now is the time. Don't delay. You know, the hour is late. Let's get to know the creator of the universe and his love for us.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's it. Like, we don't assume that it's just going to go away. Hit it head on. And you're worth that time and your children are worth that time. And so that's the first thing. Don't you know, do we believe it? Number two, start with something easy. Okay, so, hey, I've walked through these doubts. I do have some, some concerns. But, man, I believe this is true. So I'm going to start walking through it. Where do I start. Well, I'm guessing if you're 7 year old, you're not going to walk through Romans and go, now I need to explain.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: Here's Romans one exactly makes.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Make it easy, guys. Like, this is exciting. This is hope. This is life. This shares the hope of Jesus. Go through one of the gospels and just start reading and learning along the way with your kids. Hey, we're going to read through the book of John today and just chap one. And here it is. What you guys get out of it. It's that simple.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: Well, and I would say there's, there's, there was a technique that came out a few years ago and I forget what it's called.
Discovery Bible. I don't know what it is. Anyway, someone in the comments let me know. But it's three basic questions and I found this to be a really helpful tool because they're, they're universal. You can use it with any text and simply one, this. What does this text teach us about God? Number two, was this text revealed to me about me or humanity? And what is number three? Is, is God? Is there an action item here? Is there, is there like God calling us to engage or do something at this.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: Right?
[00:15:53] Speaker B: And I found that so helpful because sometimes you get into those texts and you're like, okay, I don't know where this is going, but if you have those kind of guardrails. Okay, first thing.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: This text, what does it teach us about God and his character and who he is?
[00:16:04] Speaker A: Right? Yeah.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: What does this teach us about us as human beings? You know?
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: And then finally, is there a call to action? I found those questions extremely helpful. If you need those, they'll be in
[00:16:13] Speaker A: the bottom because that's all it is. Guys, it's not this long.
Go into the Greek right now. That's not what you need. You just got to start. And like. And if something jumps out, just like that. What jumps out to you? Wow. Okay, I'm going to start there. We're seeking the spirit of God in that we're saying God, we want you to teach us. And then that's it. That's really. Just start with simple. Start reading Genesis and read through Genesis, whatever it is, just find a place. But you don't. It doesn't have to be difficult, right? It doesn't have to be deep. In fact, I can almost challenge the same thing to you. Most people who walk into our office are not like, I'm really struggling with this verse and therefore it's affecting my marriage. It's like I'm an idiot to my spouse.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: I'm selfish.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: No, no, let's rephrase that. My spouse is an idiot to me.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: Because we never think it's our fault, we always think it's their fault. Of course. So, and then you sit down with them for a while and then you're like, there's two to tango.
[00:17:04] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: You're an idio it too.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: So it's like, it's never this deep rooted thing of like, well, she believes in trichotomy and I believe in dichotomy and therefore we just can't be married. It's like we don't know how to serve each other anymore. Right. Like my seven year old, you know, a seven year old could learn how to serve somebody. And so, so there, there's a lot in this that guys, we, we miss the forest for the trees and so keep it simple.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: So, and just one more thing.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: Remember your role as a facilitator, not an expert.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: Right. Your role as a facilitator to help encourage and stir conversation. And the first few times, I promise you, it is going to be awkward.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: And this is not just for dads to their kids. This can also be guys to guys. Or if you're in college and you have a group of guys that you're hanging around with and you together. Like we need to dive into scriptures. These things apply there as well.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Right.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: And be one who facilitates conversation with rather than is the expert throwing out like alms, like here you go, peasants.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: Take my little words of wisdom, you know.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we stalemate ourselves by going, I'm not an expert, I'm never going to be an expert. So therefore I'm not going to say anything. So then to walk in that very peaceful, you know, simple, hey, here's what God is saying and moving from there and teaching that. Which then leads us to the third thing. Invite your kids into the learning alongside you.
You know, like it's simply you're sharing those, I love those three things that you talked about. And then going, hey guys, what do you think about. Yes, that's it, that's it. What do you think about this? Well, and then, and then as they're doing that, you're going, lord, how do I apply this to them? Like maybe like Paul is, is a jerk to his sister.
[00:18:47] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: How do you think you two could apply this to your own relationship? What do you think you could do? I mean, it's not just to get them to do something, but to apply it practically is a lot easier than we make it seem correct.
Again, if we have an opportunity to share hope with our kids in this way, to get them to see, hey, we're learners still.
Well, I can be a learner the rest of my life.
You know, I saw this. I saw this reel that talked about the fact that our kids are watching us try out this parenting thing the first time, and somewhere we felt like maybe we should have it together. No, we need to break that reality that we have got it together. I mean, we're seeing spiritual leaders fall all the time. We can't just put all of our hope into this shepherd that we don't even know when we are the ones. And, man, if they see us off of our white horse more often, they're going to realize that they don't have to be on theirs all the time either. And that they can walk and stumble and learn and not know everything and not have all the answers, still pursue after the Lord.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: And I think this again goes to the idea of, like, you can understand the academic reality of grace, but the kid's gonna know grace when he experiences it firsthand.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: And he's gonna see forgiveness when you know that you've blown it and you have to go to them or to your spouse and say, I need forgiveness. Because I realize I absolutely blew it on this one. And again, it's caught as much as it is taught.
[00:20:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Do you need to teach it 100%? Do you need facilitate the conversations?
Absolutely. But the heart of. I think what Bill you're talking about is be the one who is willing to live it, experience it, and invite them to experience it with you so they might understand it in their soul.
[00:20:29] Speaker A: Yeah. We just want them to realize, wow, I don't have to be perfect.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: God uses imperfect people who are pursuing after him on the daily and whatever their age is. We can have an option to say, you don't have to be perfect either.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: You're gonna mess this up. God's grace is sufficient for you. His mercies are new every morning. Let's do this again. Yep. And not so that we're accepted. We're already loved and accepted. It's so that we understand more of who he is and what he's created us to be.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: Love it.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: And then finally, the last thing, guys, this is a big one. Is to be brave and pray over your kids.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: Courage. Be bold and courageous.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: We don't look at this like a courageous act. We look at it like, well, I don't know what the Right. Things to say.
Who really does.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: You know, it's like, oh, well, you, you, you have this good oration and you say all these things like, no, no, God, I pray for my kids and that you would help us to learn more about you today and that they would love you more and they would love each other more. Amen, Whatever. But I, I. There is something about the voice of your parents. You know, I go back to my mother. I'm not trying to be nostalgic today, but I haven't heard her voice in almost a year and a half.
But I still remember, I still remember the things that she prayed for me and how she responded. Guys, that stuff doesn't return. That's the word of God. Not returning. Void in the lives of your children is that they would know that you're praying over them, that you would stop them in the middle. And like you said, it's the same thing with when you teach. It gets less awkward every time.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:21:59] Speaker A: So this first few times of awkwardness,
[00:22:01] Speaker B: step into it and I will tell
[00:22:03] Speaker A: you, your children want you to do this.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: But the enemy is screaming right now, how much of a mistake this is. Because it's so weird. It's so awkward. But, man, he also understands the value of prayer. You look through the scriptures, man, we could take anybody. Elijah, it doesn't matter, Daniel. And just the way in which even Elijah prayed and called down fire from heaven, I mean, there's days you wanted to do that to your kids. I get it, I get it. But there's this moment where we have denied the power of what prayer can do in our lives. And then we're like, oh, I'm not gonna do that over my kids.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Yeah, but it can totally change it. And I would say this, like, Jesus even himself says, hey, don't use a ton of words. You're not impressing me.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: You're just, just say. And so one of the things that we try to press into our community is this idea of pray now. And it's this idea of like, little prayers throughout the day can be more powerful than like collecting all the prayers and then having a 25 minute prayer session at the end of the day where half the people are opening their being distracted. Yes. Your brother, you know, your two kids are fighting under the table, and they continue to fight, but instead of like, right before they leave the car, hey, I'm gonna pray for you, Jesus. Give him courage today.
Amen. That's gonna have a great day.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: That's it.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Hey, Jesus, let him be A good friend today, you know, Give him a chance to love someone today.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Give him a chance to serve someone today. That's all.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: That's all it takes.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: Right. And just begin to surround them in that. That covenant of prayer, that communication of the Father, and it just changes hearts and minds. Imagine being a mom who's having a horrible day. The kids are out of control, and instead of just losing it, she says, we're just gonna pray. Kids, come here. We're gonna pray. Jesus, give us a moment of peace. Amen. You don't think that's gonna change the demeanor of the kids and that entire room in that house at that moment? Oh, absolutely it will.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: So just becoming people who embrace this reality of, like, God invites us, doesn't have to be long, doesn't have to be flowery. Just say what's on your mind. Say what's on your heart. I delight in hearing from you. Pray at all times without ceasing about everything.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: And just be that kind of person. And let's do it in front of our kids, not quietly, but out loud, and invite them to become that people to their friends, to their future spouses, and to their future kids and grandkids. Right?
[00:24:16] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: That's what we're talking about.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Yes. Because what we do echoes into who their children will become.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: So we have an opportunity now to look at it. So whether your kids are teenagers, whether they are little kids, whether they're out of the house, you can still pray for them. You can still have conversation. In fact, I remember Kelly from Soldiers for Faith was like, I don't want this season to be over. And that's part of why he started Soldiers of Faith was that he could do Bible studies with his sons who are now leaving the house.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: Our children want to hear from us.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: So we have an opportunity to then use something very simple like getting in the truth together, casting that on them, praying over them. But stop believing that it has to be complicated. It is that simple, guys. And we believe in you. So please connect with us if we can help in any way. Infoownlegacy.org we have the resources of obviously more than you. A great. A great study for you guys to. To do for free. The men's morning Bible study. We'd love you to be a part of that adrenaline shot, and we want you to be connected by sending us your question of the day. Question of the day. Need that.
So, guys, thank you so much for listening today. We are encouraged that you're here, and we believe that God has great things for you and your family.
[00:25:25] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: Final thoughts, Travis.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Go Astros.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: On that spiritual note, have a great week, guys.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: It's our year, baby. Thanks for listening to the no Legacy podcast.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: We'd love to hear from you.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: So email us your questions or comments to infonolegacy.org.
